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Mirzali

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I request sysop access on diq.wikipedia:

I'm a native speaker of Zazaki and want to help 'Maviulke12' -our administrator-. Thank you! -mirzali 07:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Support-- As the sysop of the Zazaki Wikpedia, I need help of both Asmen and Mirzali. Both of them had important contributions during the creation process of Zazaki Wikipediya. --Maviulke12 19:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Şablon:Done --Paginazero - Ø 06:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions/Archive_2006/October#diq.wikipedia

Asmen

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I request sysop access on diq.wikipedia:

I'm a native speaker of Zazaki and want to help 'Maviulke12' -our administrator-. Thank you! -Asmên 09:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Support-- As the sysop of the Zazaki Wikpedia, I need help of both Asmen and Mirzali. Both of them had important contributions during the creation process of Zazaki Wikipediya. --Maviulke12 19:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Şablon:Done --Paginazero - Ø 06:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions/Archive_2006/October#diq.wikipedia


Tornê Sey Rızay

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I request sysop access on diq.wikipedia:

Thank you! --Tornê Sey Rızay 18:00, 14 Gulane 2008 (UTC)

Oppose-- The user doesn't have a well established edit/contribution history here in the Zazaki Wikipedia, so I don't support his request.

Oppose-- This user doesn't have a well established edit/contribution history here in the Zazaki Wikipedia, so I don't support his request. --Mirzali 11:46, 29 Temuze 2008 (UTC)


AliErsoy

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I request sysop access on diq.wikipedia:

I am a Zazaki-Speaker and want to help to develope this project. I work here since the begin (Test-period, i had the nick "Dersimli, Dêrsımıc") on this project and helped to build a common spelling. Also I writed, opened and edited many articles here.

I'm very educated on Zazaki and his history and know, what we can do, that more people can visite this page and be active here. --AliErsoy 12:08, 12 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)

  • Support-- As the sysop of the Zazaki Wikpedia, I need help of Ali Ersoy. He has important contributions during the creation process of Zazaki Wikipediya. --Asmên 23:24, 13 September 2009
  • Support-- As one of the sysops in Zazaki Wikpedia, I agree with the request and support AliErsoy. --Mirzali 22:51, 13 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
oppose-- Ez Ali Ersoy ri destur niduno. Ali Ersoy keyfe xu ra yew "standard" virast. Ma eney standardi qebul nikeni. --Aspar 10:32, 17 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
Eke şıma raştnuştışê mı de xetayan vênenê, şıma şenê mı rê vacê. Ez keyfê xo ra standard nêvırazenan, tı zi ney zanenê. Ez her dem heme merduman persenan ke varyanto tewr raşt bêro gırewtene, zey "nuştekar" de oyo ke fıkrê to bi, ya zi zey "dıce" de. Esıl şıma Wikivate de keyfê xo ra teba nusenê, mesela seba çekuya "what"e "çî" gêne, meneya cı "şey"a, "what" niya. Seba Xosere Farsan zaf hez keno Zazaki xırabe keno. Meqsedê şıma duştê ma Zazawanan (Zazacılar) de teba bıkerê ke şıma xo hetê psikolociye ra rınd his kerê, şıma fıkır kenê ke merdumê rındêri benê eke şıma hetê Vateyi derê. --AliErsoy 11:22, 17 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
Oppose-- We already have four users with admin access. I don't understand what the fifth one will add in this small wikipedia. AliErsoy contributed with only two or three articles to this wikipedia. He can still contribute with his regular user name. His other edits are all about so-called "standard language" which is controversial with many users. I am guessing that his motive will be to transform writings to that so-called "standard" Zazaki language. This will create edit-wars again. Admins Asmen and Mirzali is already on his side. His nomination will only break the balance here. --Xosere 06:16, 14 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
I opened 40-60 articles here, sometimes I opened the articles with my ip-number, if I was in the work or at my uncles, where we opened the articles together. Also I worked here with you at the portal and at the calender which was a job of many days. In contrast, i will make a balance here between you and the other admins. No fear, i don't will transform anything, everybody is free to write how they want. What I will do as Admin is to fix the grammer mistakes and accomplish the needs of the user here and develope the portals and articles that our Encyclopdy will be perfect for normal users.
PS: After I am admin, I will buy a domain for the Zazaki-Wikipedia, that the normal users have better access on it. --AliErsoy 08:54, 14 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
You can still fix grammar, develop portals and articles with a normal user access. You don't need to have an admin access for those kind of activities. You have told me several times that you think that writing on the wikipedia is useless. So what really change your mind? 90% of your edits are about that so-called "standard" language stuff, so this tells me that might want to implement your personal "standards". And I think this will create unnecessary edit-wars. --Xosere 06:54, 15 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
Xosere's polemical statements are irrelevant. These are purely hypothetical excuses. He is only striving not to lose his almost dictatorial power over this project. Because of him we have been coming almost a year could not continue here. He tries to enforce his stubborn, because he believes that this project alone belonged to him, because he was the founder. But he likes to ignore all our support and efforts from the outset of this project. He can’t stop any changes. However, his own unwitting of any ideas he brings every time in and changes texts with his inadequate language skills. He has contaminated lots of articles by their original constitution, and it creates havoc in the grammar and in spelling. He removes even conversations and observations in the talk pages. What kind of a backward mentality and an intolerant attitude is that? I don't understand it. By his conduct he has chased many people from the project. But he non-even can’t see his own mistakes and charged us with it. --Mirzali 14:59, 14 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
Things that you say about me are totally false. You are free to write here. Also you have an admin access. So, nobody can prevent you writing articles here. That's why I don't understand your problem. But if you want to change articles to your personal "standard" language, this would be an issue. Wikipedia is open to every body. --Xosere 06:54, 15 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
You know exactly what is meant. So don’t crush the matter unnecessarily. All that has happened so far, was because of you. In your private emails you are talking a different language, and here you're talking about a different turn.
You always blame on somebody else and represent the matter differently. The standard language is another matter. Please don’t always come to us with any objection and let the people finally at rest. You're the one who works with Kurdish sympathizers together and want also introduce the Kurdish alphabet. You traitor! You have done enough harm. Because of you we will not continue for many months. --Mirzali 09:29, 15 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
I think these views has nothing to do with me or the voting process. --Xosere 06:43, 17 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
Certainly, when you need it, you move the things practically get away from you. But be sure of that, your reputation has long been ahead of you. --Mirzali 21:36, 17 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)

Why AliErsoy's nomination is problematic

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1. He told me many times that writing in wikipedia is useless. Then why he wants to get the sysop access? What has changed his mind?
2. There are two groups here. One from the Northern Zazaki dialect. The other one is from the Southern Zazaki dialect. The first group designed a so-called "standard language" based on their dialects. They are out numbered here. That's why voting is almost make no sense because they will simply always have the most votes.
3. Only ~5% of AliErsoy's edits are related to article development.
4. He says he wants to fix the grammar mistakes, develop portals and articles, and so on. He can still do them with the normal user account.
5. This is a very small community. The regular contributors are only at most five people. Currently we have four people with sysop access. A fifth one won't make any sense at all. --Xosere 07:03, 21 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
The Spelling of Wikipedia is based on the Southern dialect, 80% of the louds are from the Southern dialect. If you think different, then give us proofs. It's a rule of Wikipedia to use a common spelling. So how you come to the conclusion, that its were based on the Northern dialect? Before years you even didn't understood simple Zazaki-words, there are in every dialect the same and gave the fault to the Northern Zazas.
I only said, that its sadly, that we make so much efforts and not many Users come here to read the articles. We must find a way, to make Wikipedia more attractive for the users.
And I don't understand you, in the welcome-text you write "Ensiklopdiya xosere" what is the most right spelling in Zazaki, but in the logo you let "Ensiklopediya xoserı", what is only a deformed spelling of it.
Here is the right logo: http://diq.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikilogoe.png --AliErsoy 10:19, 21 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
These has nothing to do with your nomination and the arguments that I wrote above. --Xosere 18:18, 21 Keşkelun 2009 (UTC)
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