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Karber:Xoser[çımey bıvırne]

Embazê ercay, reca ma aya ke teyna karberê ke Wikipediyay Zazaki raê u tım vırnayışi kenê, ê rey bıdê cı. Çunke no problem ê Wikipediya Zazakiyo, Wikipediya Zazakiyo seroyo.

  1. Karber Xoser 2017, 2014 u 2010 daimi aktif niyo. Çehar serri biy, hema ey çehar serran dı tek teyna yew vırnayış nêkerdo. Yani karberê do aktif niyo.
  2. Ney sero prensibê wikipediya ra vano ke karbero ke dı (2) serran ra vêşêr aktivite nêmoteno, o nêşeno admin bo.
  3. Karber Xoser karê adminiya xo nêşeno kero, nêkeno. Gani çımê yew admini tım wikipediya sero bo.
  4. Wikipediya Zazaki wikipediyê da qıteka, xora dı adminê ma estê, adminê do bin luzım nêkeno.
  5. Wikipediya:Admini, no nuşte sistemê adminiya wikipediyay Zazaki sero nusiyao, kar u wezifê ke tiya de nusiyay, Xoseri inan ra theba nêkerdo. Karê xo nêkerdo.
  6. Asmen and Mirzali are two admins on Zazaki Wikipedia. Zazaki wikipedia is very small, so it doesn't need another admin. It's redundant to have a new sysop on this small wiki.

Pêro ninan ra tepeya, coka, ez van wikipediyay Zazaki rê tek teyna dı admini besê. Mı waştışê xo zi naca ra nuşt, adiminiya Xoseri bêro wedarıtış metawiki ra waştış.

  • in English for stewards:
  1. Xoser is not continuously active 2017, 2014 and 2010.
  2. Xoser does nothing about sysyopship of Zazaki Wikipedia.
  3. There are three permanent active users on Zazaki Wikipedia. Two of them are already sysops and Zazaki Wikipedia is a small wikipedia, consisted by only three users, it doesn't need another sysop, a third sysop is unnecessary.
  4. Asmen and Mirzali are two admins of Zazaki Wikipedia. They also demand removal of Xoser's sysop acces. Zazaki wikipedia is very small, so it doesn't need another admin. It's redundant to have another sysop on this small wiki.
  5. Xoser is racist against Armenian people. He says this page is an Armenian propaganda and he deleted the Armenian word from the article, he says 'are you Armenian' to sysop Asmen and he again deletes the Armenian word from article, he says all you are Armenian. A sysop must be respectful and tolerant to all people, all nations. Xoser is not enoughly respectful.
  6. I think that (I'm sure of that) Xoser called people Neribij, Kirmanciye, Azadi, Asmen34 and from another wikipedia Gomada to get support. Even these account's activities and contributions are not permanent, year by year. They came out only for voting. Is this fair consider their votes valid? And the biggest problem, a third sysop is really needed for a small wiki like Zazaki Wikipedia? We don't think so, we say no, it's not needed, a third sysop (Xoser) is needless, two sysops can deal with this small wiki. Vuzorg (mesac) 13:37, 3 Gulan 2017 (UTC)
  1. Kirmanciye's vote should be invalid (according to Zazaki Wikipedia's policy too). Because her/his last action was in 2014 and it seems that she/he came here to vote Xoser. This is Kirmanciye's action's list [1] You will see, Kirmanciye will start to do some actions on Zazaki wikipedia during removal of Xoser's sysopship and and after will disappear.
  2. Neribij is not an active user, he/she is not from Zazaki Wikipedia. He/She is from Kurdish Wikipedia and seems that he/she came here for voting Her/His actions aren't permanent. actions on Zazaki Wikipedia, 2014 and 2017, 3 years and his/her actions on Kurdish Wikipedia, 2014 and 2017, 3 years.
  3. Azadi is not an active user, this is a list of his/him contributions. Azadi's vote should be invalid.
  4. In contradistinction to two sysops of Zazaki Wikipedia Asmen and Mirzali, Gomada is sysop of Kurdish Wikipedia; this is Gomada's user page on Kurdish Wikipedia. Gomada is not from Zazaki Wikipedia. He should not interfere Zazaki Wikipedia's local discussion. So his vote should be deemed invalid.

As you see, Azadi Kirmanciye, Neribij and Xoser all their contribution pasts are same, 2014 and 2017. Azadi Kirmanciye and Neribij came here to vote for Xoser. They are sock puppets of Xoser.

to çi nuşto, mi fehm nêkerd, la ez vana qey ti hê îtîraz kenî. wextê mi çin o ez her tim binusa, la eke ti biewnî ti vînenî mi ke ez aktîf a. (Kirmanciye (mesac))
  • This is slander. I don't have another account and I don't use "sockpuppets" either. As it is, there are only 3-4 active users on diq.wikipedia. Vuzorg changes many articles of other users, just because he does not like the style (For example:1 2). For this reason, many people left wikipedia. If this vandalism of his continues, Wikipedia will become the blog of 2-3 people alone. Xoser (mesac) 18:05, 27 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
What do you say about new and passive users such as Otrox62 and Memedaga? They only have 20-40 contributors. Xoser (mesac) 20:02, 27 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • I have to make some corrections. Also, I have contribution in 2015 see. I was also here before the vote. before the vote; see. But especially in 2016, Vuzorg (with the support of Mirzali) repeatedly took back my and other user's contributions (for example, see). They changed the orthography and the alphabets in the articles, many articles were distorted. This situation has many people keep away from the wikipedia. It's like a waste of time. You're writing, he's breaking it. That's why few people write it. Xoser is a balancing factor. When he goes, wikipedia Zazaki turns into a personal blog. Let's not let that happen. Let's develop together Wikipedia Zazaki. Neribij (mesac) 17:00, 2 Gulan 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support -- Ez nêweşiye ra gore theba nêvanan. Homa ke derd dano, wa dermanê xo zi bıdero; hema zuran û nêbiyayeyan ra zi merdımi bısıtarno. Mirzali (mesac) 19:09, 15 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose.svg Oppose -- Sihetê mi weş nêbi û tay gurey mi bi. Enka ez musait o û hîn aktîf o. Ez ronayoxê Wîkîpediya Zazakî yo. Şima wazen pê kuklayan mi bierzî u etiya teslîmê kuklayan bikî? Etîya de karberê aktîfî tay î. Ma polîtîkaya muşterek belî nêkerdo. Xoser (mesac) 05:05, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Hirê serri ra dıme tı bıyêrê, vacê ke ez nêweş biyan. Qet to rocê karê xo ra wext nêdi ke tiya kewê? Hekmeta gırane awa ke, nıka zi be veyvıka xoya desti ra veciyeni meydan. Tenê ar û edeb bıkerên! Zuran û iftıran ra ğeyri marifetê de şıma çıniyo. Tı kamci kukleyan ra behs keni? Ê kukleyê ke tı vani, pêro zi yê Erdemi biy. Ma zey şıma kukleyan nêgurenime. Kerem ke, be zuran ra nêbiyayeyan mesoyne insani! -- Mirzali (mesac) 09:27, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
Ez ewnîyaya wikipedîyaya zazakî de neheqîyêk ha bena; coka mi fikrê xo vat. Ne tena Xoser, eke mi verba yewna kesî zî na neheqî bidîyêne, mi eynî reya negatîf dayêne. û beno ke ez her wext nêkewa wiki; û qaydeyêka winasî zî çin a. La şima nêeşkenî tîya de bê delîlan îftîra bi mi bikî. Eke delîlê şima esto, vajîn; çin o vengê xo mekîn. --Kirmanciye (mesac) 12:38, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
Kam ke nêheqiye keno, wa belû beno. Sey ke pêroyine qıseyê xo kerdo yew, hirê serri ra dıme veciyenê meydan. Zur- û iftırakerdene marifetê de şımayo, naye şıma verênde ra rınd zanê. -- Mirzali (mesac) 20:49, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
Her çî ra ver edeb lazim o.
Kirmanciye is obviously a sockpuppet of Xoser. Strangely enough, he appears again like Xoser after three years. -- Mirzali (mesac) 09:52, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose.svg Oppose Seba ke wîkîpedîya de her kes bişîyo/bieşko binuso û neheqîye nêbo, ez wazeno Xoser sey admînî bimano. Ma rê admînê objektîf û bêterefî lazim ê. Neribij (mesac) 15:19, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Tebii, şıma qet yê xo mevacê! Şıma pêro heni obcektif û bêterefê ke, hirê serri ra dıme yew be yew bıyêrê dormeyê cı de top bê anciya. Zuran ra heta nıka kam merdo ke? -- Mirzali (mesac) 20:30, 16 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Asmen. Sysop Xoser had automatically been desysopped due to the rules. His deactive period is not only restrictred to the last two years. For the Zazaki Wikipedia a third sysop seems not to be a demand.(mesac) 15:13, 17 Nisane 2017 (MET)
  • Pictogram voting oppose.svg Oppose Otrox62 and Memedaga are obviously a sockpuppet of Mirzali. Only come for voting. Asmen34 (mesac) 14:13, 18 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • So what! Do you want to reaffirm Erdem (Asmen34)'s insinuation and slander? Be faithful to yourself and look away from lies. Because after three years of your absence, all the other Kurds and Kurdists suddenly appeared again. Is not that something suspicious and strange? -- Mirzali (mesac) 15:32, 28 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose.svg Oppose Qandê berdewamîya xoserîya Wikipedia ez paştî dana wa Xoser admînîya xo dewam kero. --Azadi (mesac) 11:49, 27 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose.svg Oppose Xoser has written that he/she was ill. I recommend that all users respect his/her private life. Dear Xoser, I hope you are healthy now. Btw, Mirzali has a temporary adminship (until 2017-09-12).—Gomadapeyam 17:05, 28 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
Xoser was not active for 3 years, how a person can be ill for 3 years? He was inactive between 2014-2017, he made nothing for Zazaki Wikipedia in this period, he did not made even a tiny contribution for Zazaki Wikipedia. Xoser had automatically been desysopped due to the rule of 2 years of inactivity. But a steward made him sysop again. This is not fair. When we started a local discussion on Zazaki Wikipedia Xoser came out suddenly. The problem is that, Xoser or another, a third sysop is needless for Zazaki Wikipedia. Vuzorg (mesac) 17:29, 28 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
Yes, Mirzali has a temporary adminship. Anyway, his relationship with the users is not good at all. He can't stay neutral and fair. That's why we need an impartial admin here. If not, the Zazakî Wikipedia will become the blog of only two or three persons, not going forward in any way. Xoser (mesac) 22:23, 29 Nisane 2017 (UTC)
What you do not say! With your misguided Zazaki knowledge, you want to move it forward? What you couldn't do all these years. You don't believe that so yourself. Or? You can't even write your own dialect correctly. In addition, the Kurdists mix Kurdish terms into the language wherever they can. And the Kurds themselves can't even speak Zazaki. How could they write it? I'm concerned only with the language, not with your religious or political intentions. However, I'm far from any religiosity or nationalism, because I'm an atheist and a liberal man. And that is exactly what you don't fit and try every time to turn the matter around with your untruths. I would also like to remain factual, but you don't make it easier with your intimate provocations. I can't be silent, as you do it so. Especially your unfair action affects the outsider. -- Mirzali (mesac) 04:28, 30 Nisane 2017 (UTC)

Attention: Memedaga is a sock of User:Asmen. It's proved by steward User:Matiia. You can read here--—Gomadapeyam 20:14, 3 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

That's not true. Memedaga is a member of the managing comitee of our Zazaki Institute who used sometimes my laptop. --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 23:29, 3 Gulan 2017 (UTC)
The vote of the sock puppet (Memedaga) is invalid. Xoser (mesac) 00:21, 5 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

Attention: Gomada is sysop (admin) of Kurdish Wikipedia. So he is not an unbiased user and he is not member of Zazaki Wikipedia. He is meddling in Zazaki Wikipedia's own problem. Is this moral? If I interfere English Wikipedia's own problem or if I meddle in a steward problem on Metawiki, would it be right? Why does he interfere Zazaki Wikipedia? Is this ethical? Why he obsessed with Zazaki Wikipedia so? Why does he support Xoser? Vuzorg (mesac) 15:03, 4 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

@Vuzorg: Don't make personal attacks. This is the last warning! Gomada is user of Zazaki Wikipedia too.Xoser (mesac) 00:09, 5 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

@Vuzorg: Unfortunately, it seems like you will never learn that Wiki-projects are open to everyone, but I recommend you to read principles of Wiki once again. Btw, Zazaki is langauge of my people, therefore I'll always be here to help.Thats my last answer for you.—Gomadapeyam 09:14, 7 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

Why are you deleting Vuzorgs personal comments? And is it not a personal attack if you trying to call me an "Armenian propagandist" or to say in a tone of offence "Have you become an Armenian now?". Please stop this double standard. Ez zerrey to u Gomaday ki zanan ke şıma çıqas niyeterındê(!)... --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 14:10, 5 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

@Asmen, I don't really have time to waste with your unnecessary arguements such as you claim you know me so well. The point is, what are you gonna do for developing diq.wiki instead of making it your clique project?—Gomadapeyam 09:14, 7 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

Better mind your own business, Gomada. We are not a clique, you are a clique with your political intentions on Zazaki and the Zazas. We don't discrimate anyone who tries to make qualitative contributions on our Wikipedia project. It is not our fault if on the one hand the "Kurdish dialectist" on the other hand medical care-depentdent guys like Erdem A. that you don't have proficiency on the Zaza-Language, even not on your own vernacular but trying to force your damaged grammar and Turkish and Kurmanci loanwords which don't exist in Zazaki and insist on such a misconstruction. Would you accept if I would try to create or write with an incorrect Kurmanci grammar and using some Zazaki word in Kurmanci Wikipedia and also with the background trying to Zazafy the Kurds? What would you do, hand on your hand? --Asmêno Bêwayir (mesac) 21:07, 7 Gulan 2017 (UTC)

X mark.svg Nêvirazîya konsensus nêvirazîya. Xoser (mesac) 00:46, 17 Gulan 2017 (UTC)